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Reasons not to suggest desyncing coils for gear:
#Solo farming (Savage) only works at 50, and is thus not a sustainable way to teach sprouts to get gear.
#It requires a level-capped player to help you, or for you to already be capped.
#It requires that you have no {{tomestone|Poetics}} [[Poetics]] or {{gil}} [[Gil]], which is incredibly unlikely.
#It is confusing to have three different methods called out at the top.
#The Heavensward 115 gear (and <u>all</u> catch-up gear) is given by the MSQ, so there will be a steady supply on the [[Market Board]] even if no one is crafting this gear.

[[User:Freedom4556|Freedom4556]] ([[User talk:Freedom4556|talk]]) 17:08, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

== Artisan's Gear - Purchased how ==

Why does this guide suggest buying the [[Artisan Gear]] with [[Company Seals]]? As long as you're a Lieutenant in your Grand Company and have done the level 50 [[Disciple of Hand]] quest, you can pretty reliably make the HQ materials to get the Master I tomes. Yeah, that also costs thousands of seals in materials, but far, ''far'' less than actually buying the gear straight-up from your Grand Company.
* 9 [[Hardened Sap]] - 1800 seals (to make [[Treated Spruce Lumber]] to get [[Master Carpenter I]])
* 18 [[Coke]] - 3600 seals (to make two [[Darksteel Ingot|Darksteel Ingots]] to get [[Master Blacksmith I]] and [[Master Armorer I]])
* 9 [[Peacock Ore]] - 1800 seals (to make [[Rose Gold Ingot]] to get [[Master Goldsmith I]])
* 9 [[Animal Fat]] - 1800 seals (to make [[Hard Hippogryph Leather]] to get [[Master Leatherworker I]])
* 9 [[Potash]] - 1800 seals (to make [[Vanya Silk]] to get [[Master Weaver I]])
* 9 [[Lime Sulphur]] - 1800 seals (to make [[Growth Formula Delta Concentrate]] to get [[Master Alchemist I]])
* 1 [[Cooking Sherry]] - 20 seals (to make [[Sauteed Coeurl]] to get [[Master Culinarian I]])
totaling 12620 Seals. And then the items from the Master tomes that you trade in for the Artisan primary tools and armor (such as [[Rose Gold Cog]] or [[Spicy Tomato Relish]]) don't require any seals at all, you can just craft these with stuff you gather completely normally.<br>
Not to mention that if you only want the armor, not every single primary tool, you could also buy only one of these tomes and be fine. This means that you could get by with only ''20 seals'' by buying [[Cooking Sherry]], crafting [[Sauteed Coeurl]], exchanging that for [[Master Culinarian I]], and then make a whole bunch of [[Spicy Tomato Relish]] to exchange for the Artisan armor.<br>
Compare this with
* [[Artisan's Spectacles]] - 5000 seals
* [[Artisan's Gown]] - 6500 seals
* [[Artisan's Fingerstalls]] - 5000 seals
* [[Artisan's Chausses]] - 5000 seals
* [[Artisan's Pattens]] - 5000 seals
* 8 Artisan's primary tools - 60000 seals
totaling ''86500 seals!''<br>
Why would you ever choose the latter option? At that level, that is actually a massive amount of seals.<br>
[[User:Nixitur|Nixitur]] ([[User talk:Nixitur|talk]]) 17:42, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
: The [https://guides.ffxivteamcraft.com/guide/crafting-leveling-guide Teamcraft leveling guide] recommends just using the IL 55 tools you get from the lv 50 class quests until lv 63 and skipping investing in IL 70 Artisan's Tools, assuming you're using Ishgardian Restoration as the main leveling method. That only makes 26500 seals required, which is relatively easy to obtain from just exchanging dungeon loot, and is simpler than having to craft all of these intermediate items. - [[User:Dr Agon|Dr Agon]] ([[User talk:Dr Agon|talk]]) 20:04, 11 November 2023 (UTC)